Comments on Magistra Ygraine's Various Satanic Rants: Satanism Getting the Blame for Stupid Christian He...

Hi Ygraine!Seems I've overlooked this during my bu...

2008-09-22T06:26:00.000-07:00

Hi Ygraine!

Seems I've overlooked this during my busy 4 day weekend. Did you do anything special for the Equinox?

Any...

Anytime someone does not hold themselves accountable for their own actions then they are undermining their own personal responsibility. Yes, belief in a deity can be a crutch for someone to not feel accountable BUT so does having a vice (any vice, coffee and nicotine included), being in a relationship, being a member of a group (citizenship of a country included). My point is, anyone can use anything to undermine their personal responsiblities not just exclusively a belief in a deity.

There is no diffence in treating people like shit in the morning because you have not have your coffee than treating them like shit because your god demands it for a few hours.

I will concede to you that if 'LaVeyan' Satanism (and I know you don't like that phrase) was the only Satanism known then it would be easier to defend it from the stupid.

However,

Satanism is defined by society at large as the worship of Satan, and by that definition I am a Satanist and you are not. Now, I would never deny you or the CoS the use of that descriptor (not that it would do me any good), and I will defend the right of the CoS and its members to call themselves satanists (not that they really need my help!). This might be a bit cheeky but wouldn't it be easier for the CoS to change their name than to change society?!

I acknowledge that the CoS was the first legally recognized organization to call themselves satanists in the USA or any other country; but, that does not mean that it was the first organization to call themselves satanists ever. Granted, I can't point to an older organization at this time and say that they predate the CoS. But as a wiseman once said, absence of proof does not mean proof of absense.

Okay, I think I covered all my points, this 'leave your comment' box really is too small...

Jeremy,My position on theism, regardless of deity,...

2008-09-17T14:44:00.000-07:00

Jeremy,
My position on theism, regardless of deity, will always be the same:
Belief in deity undermines personal responsibility. The more fervent the belief the more dangerous, granted. Any form of worship, by definition, means homage must be paid to--that homage demands some measure of sacrifice. In my book sacrifice of any kind is inherently bad as it implies one must seek help from outside rather than inside. It leads to demands upon people that take away from their energy to pursue and control their own destiny. It isn't just theistic Satanists--but they are my focus because of the pride I have in being part of the first organized religion that called itself Satanic and abolished any spiritual component, embraced self-divinity, and acknowledged man's psychological need for ritual and dogma.
Face one small thing--if only "LaVeyan" Satanism was known as the only Satanism throughout the world, would we be seeing real people sacrificing anything to Satan?
Nope. There is no point in sacrificing to a god/devil that isn't there.

Y~

PS:

I'll read your link in the am--least I can do as you've been so kind and open.

Ygraine, by the time I saw your post it was 30 min...

2008-09-17T07:45:00.000-07:00

Ygraine,

by the time I saw your post it was 30 minutes into the show and by the time I managed to get everything working to listen to it, it was another 20 minutes... I guess I could have just said I caught the last 10 minutes!

It was right in the middle of my youngests bed time, so I didn't catch the whole last 10 minutes but I did catch enough to draw this conclusion:

You misunderstand what theistic satanism really it, so here is a link to a post I made about it:

http://magikana.blogspot.com/2008/08/theistic-satanism-101.html

I do agree with what you two were talking about in concern to the AIDS pandemic in Africa. I'm going to see if I can listen to more broadcasts, old ones and new

Jeremy, dammit!Would you stop making me think not ...

2008-09-16T17:11:00.000-07:00

Jeremy, dammit!

Would you stop making me think not all of you guys are bad!??? Give up this silly deity shit and embrace the real dark side ;)

Perhaps you can listen to me on satanismtoday.net @ 9:00 pm

Y~

Hi Ygraine!I'm not even going to rise to the bait ...

2008-09-16T12:56:00.000-07:00

Hi Ygraine!

I'm not even going to rise to the bait on this one, so I'll just discuss the stupidity of those Russians...

I read the article this morning, it was linked on the Drudge Report of all places, and I don't have the liberty of opening the link to re-read it, so this is all from memory:

They stabbed their victims 666 time?! Two things come to mind, 1) That must have taken forever, been tiring and difficult to count, 2) Who counted this? The coroner? Can you really ever count 666 seperate stab wounds on a human body? I think someone made that one up

And they ate the bodies? Ok, cannabalism aside, they are easier ways to cook up meat (human or otherwise) than on a fire in the woods. If they really did stab the victims 666 times then I imagine the meat was at great risks to being infected with the intestinal waste leaking out everywhere...

As a theistic Satanist, I've never been asked by Satan to sacrific anyone or anything. As a matter of fact, the last time we spoke he asked me to say hi to you next time we spoke, so... Hi, from Satan!